Robert E. Van Cleef
1 min readJun 29, 2020

Your sister was correct. Implied Catholic theology basically says that sex without being open to child birth is evil. As a cradle Catholic, I had my tubes tied after our second trial because both my wife and the baby almost didn't survive. That was quick and easy with no complications. We have never regretted that decision.

When I see the same protestors working to protect living children and members of religious orders who were abused by the church, then I might start listening to them again. Today, in my book, they are false prophets.

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Robert E. Van Cleef
Robert E. Van Cleef

Written by Robert E. Van Cleef

I am an SOB: Son of a Bos’n — Sailor, Preacher, Advocate, Computer Geek.

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Yes — hating on Trump is misplaced. Trump is Trump, but if you want to hate, then look at the Dolts who put him in office, or better yet the 100 million who didn’t vote who allowed him to be elected. The Republican Senate should be the target of…

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